Israel is the principal source of regional instability and terror and everyone and his dog knows this.
The kowtowing to Trump and his Zionist sponsors by the client states of the US Empire is an insult to objective reality.
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Please don't make Iran out to be some sort of victim in all this. What Israel is doing is wrong, but Iran has funded a lot of terrorists throughout the years, and execute people in medival ways for holding hands with the "wrong" person.
The iranian government is pure fucking evil and deserves to die horrible deaths for what they instigate and fund around the world and in their local area.
It's a deep sarcasm that Western oil companies destabilized the Iranian monarchy, that * shockingly* wanted a piece of the pie in such a way it paved the way for islamist extremists to gain power.
Ian used to be pretty liberal and western minded, however westen meddling caused this extreme government.
But God forbid they get the means to (to use the Israeli turn off phrase) 'defend' itself, that would be horrendous.
Yes, yes, we all know Iran used to be liberal a very long time ago.
That ship has sailed, and the current regime isn't great, to say the very least.
Nuclear bombs would not be used to defend Iran. They would be used to defend Khamenei. In the same way that nukes are for defending that shit stain in Israel and not Israel.
Ik no fan of the current regime, I think both Israel and Iran would benefit from a regime change. There's nothing more moral on the Israeli side to explain them deserving nukes over anyone in that region.
But the hypocrisy is that the Western world directly caused this shit.
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And not only that, Israel has nuclear weapons.
...and it's supposed to be a secret because God forbid having to comply with international treaties on nukes. Well it's not like they respect international law anyway right? But the ones on nukes they just bypass and no one bats an eye
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nobody should have nuclear weapons.
Sometimes I wonder what the world would be like if the scientists working on the Manhattan project had all agreed it's too much and intentionally sabotage every test.
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“We will do anything to maintain the status quo, up to and including genocidal ethnosupremacy”!
I am honestly so revolted.
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China, India, and Pakistan once again proving that having nukes does actually matter because you can't be arbitrarily shoved around around by the only other nuclear powers.
it also helps if your air defense network doesn't collapse immediately because it turns out that in order to guard these nukes you need also regular capable conventional military
Ukraine had nukes and gave them up. They were invaded.
Iraq gave up their WMD program after the first Gulf War. They were invaded again.
Iran definitely had a nuclear program, but doesn't appear to be pursuing it anymore. They're getting attacked and quite possibly will get invaded.
South Africa had a nuclear program and gave it up. Left alone.
The Great Powers, particularly the United States but also Russia, have shown that your country should just keep going once you start. Chances are, you'll get invaded, anyway.
This is not the way towards anti-proliferation.
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"Iran is two weeks away from nuclear capability" - Netanyahu: 2012, 2015, 2018, 2023, 2025
He started a lot earlier than 2012
"Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,”
I guess we all just have to pretend Israel doesn't exist?
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But genocide against Palestinians is a-OK.
What does the "G" in G7 stand for? Gaslighting? Genocide? Grift? Maybe there are 7 Gs.
Why? If the West will allow Israel to live stream a genocide and both political parties in the US stick their fingers in their ears and make sounds like children, Iran has no choice but to pursue a nuke to defend itself.
I would have worded this differently, but you're right in that it's probably a good idea not to give anyone an extra excuse.
"Oh but we had to" isn't a great excuse, but it is one, and if you take away the threat, it takes it away that argument.
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Ukraine gave up their nukes, look what happened to them. Libya gave their nuclear weapons program up, and look at them today. North Korea didn't, and they're still standing, for better or for worse. Iraq was accused of having nukes, but didn't have them, and got destroyed. Seems that if you want any semblance of sovereignty outside of NATO, you better have some nukes.
So for any nations reading along I'll summarize the basic conclusions:
- Get nukes
- If you have nukes, do not give them up
- If you're accused of having nukes, drop everything and get nukes asap
Do you think Israel would be bombing Iran if they had nukes?
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Iran will have nukes. They don't have a choice. Not anymore. It's existentialism at this point. Israel has been trying to engineer a war against Iran for more than 30 years. All the while Iran has played along. IAEA inspectors and all that good shit. And it was all for nothing. Iran knows that now. So does everyone else.
If you're an adversary to the US and its Imperial interests then its a matter of when, not if. Doesn't matter if or how closely you follow their rules. They will come for you in time.
They're out of time. US B52s and B2s will obliterate what's left of their nuclear facilities. F35s and drones will do the rest. For all the Zionist propaganda, there's absolutely no evidence Iran wanted to weaponise Uranium and every evidence that they wanted to cooperate with the West in return for sanctions relief, as they did in 2015 with the JCPOA.
The question is can Iran make it painful enough for the US by causing chaos in the straits of Hormuz and damaging oil and gas infrastructure that Trump loses interest and declares victory before he imposes regime change, which is what Netanyahu really wants.
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People with nuclear weapons have forbidden you from having nuclear weapons?
Humans are a goofy lot.
Religious zealots can't be allowed to have nukes. You have to at least masquerade as a well-adjusted nation while you develop the nukes and slowly massage your zealots into positions of power over a few decades. Those are the rules.
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Probably best for all of us if nobody can ever have nuclear weapons, but what do i know..
Why not? The claims made by G7 members as to why are admissions - heck, one of the members has used nuclear weapons on civilians, and they’re still allowed to have them.
If anyone can, everyone can.
Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror.
Ok does someone want to catch me up on this opinion shared by world leaders but quite literally no one else?
Like yes, Iran is a terrible authoritarian state that is very dangerous. But so is Saudi Arabia?!
Well you see the existence of Iran forces Israel to bomb them, thus destabilizing the region. If Iran would simply stop existing, Israel wouldn't have to bomb them, and the region would be stable
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How else can the most advanced first-world nations keep exploiting the Middleeast?
With Netynyahu, we can change the government of any nation in the middleast. We just tell him to make a presentation that they're bad and have big weapons!
Guys please understand we, the US, UK, Germany, and rest of G7 first-world nations, reaally need to assassinate forign leaders and destory and kill the people of any nation that opposes the existance of a genocidal ethnostate aparthied .... because, the few Zionists who pay our salaries will not have a country where they can kill, evict, colonize, assassinate anyone who is not from their chosen race. Then we will have to give these brown people democracy, and their own governments?!!
If we did not make the middleast into dictatorships that work with our genocidal ethostate only, then they will not sell us cheap oil and will not have to couple all their trades, currencies and inflations against US dollar. Omg. imagine if they were then allowed to manufacture their own weapons and not buy trillions worth of military equipments and defense contracts from us? omg.. our 9999 military bases there? who will pay for them?
Well Pakistan will give them one if needed so they kind of already have one. Maybe stop pushing them to use it on Israel.
Nukes for me but not for thee
“We will vaporize every living thing on the face of the earth in order to ensure that the threat of Iran possibly maybe but probably not having a nuclear weapon will be neutralized!”
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